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Andrew 08-05-2004 11:21:12 64.201.214.250 10848 Report to Moderator	Does anyone know any info on that V12 Flathead that was used in the old lincolns back in the 30's and 40's?? like what size of stoke and bore and cubic inches h.p torque and does anyone like Offenhauser make parts for them ????? [Reply]  [No Email]
w.reid 09-21-2004 06:44:38 64.12.116.204 11271 Report to Moderator	Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-05-2004 11:21:12   Besides all the other problems you have just heard about, they burn oil badly. Most of them were replaced with a 239 or 255 V8. You can get parts for these engines and they make good power   [Reply]  [No Email]
Scott from Oregon 08-06-2004 07:49:26 63.77.19.78 10857 Report to Moderator	Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-05-2004 11:21:12   According to an old book I have, the 1939 Lincoln V12 had 414 cubic inches (3-1/8 bore X 4-1/2 stroke)and produced 150 HP @ 3400 RPM. The book also lists a Zephyr V12 which is a bit smaller.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Andrew 08-06-2004 11:57:41 142.165.144.14 10860 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Scott from Oregon, 08-06-2004 07:49:26   thats not alot of power from that size of motor what would happen if i put 3 2bbls on it and put 12:1 pistons and get high compression heads??? or even put a super charger off of a 6-71 Detroit on it.. how much power would it have then 600 500???   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jon H 08-06-2004 20:35:17 69.26.18.0 10873 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-06-2004 11:57:41   The Lincoln V12 had big oil system problems even at stock HP/rpm. One big problem was that it used the same oil pump as the flathead V8 and was way undersize.A little wear and oil pressure was nearly 0. A very smooth interesting engine without much performance potential.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Andrew 08-06-2004 21:49:08 142.165.144.14 10874 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Jon H, 08-06-2004 20:35:17   A very smooth interesting engine without much performance potential. Does that mean is not good for power and a pile of junk for a hto rod. what woudl happen if a guy got a high volume oil pump with high pressure????   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jon H 08-07-2004 07:49:18 69.26.16.117 10877 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-06-2004 21:49:08   My knowledge of the Lincoln V12 is all second hand from books I have read. They state that the Lincoln V12 was not very reliable,even in stock form. I suspect there are other weak links in the chain besides the oil pump. like most flathead engines,the breathing is not very good so they cannot make much power per CI. I remember seeing a Custom 30's Lincoln hot rod sell at auction for a very high price because it used a modified Linciln V12 instead of a much more common modern V8. Keep in mind that this was a show quality car that was likely never driven except from the enclosed trailer to the show floor,if then.   [Reply]  [No Email]
txblu 08-06-2004 10:21:51 199.46.199.233 10859 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Scott from Oregon, 08-06-2004 07:49:26   Several comments to both posts. The restoration below is absolutely gorgeous. Having seen the Ford flathead V8 as my first auto engine, I had a hard time adjusting to the overhead valve engines ('53) that only had one radiator hose (top and bottom). I didn't understand the coolant routing on the flathead vs OHV engines at the time. On the specs, looks like a highway cruiser engine, not hot rod. The stroke is horrible. Would make one heck of a Funk conversion for an n.....wow!!! Mark   [Reply]  [No Email]
Barry 09-18-2004 22:01:23 205.188.116.204 11254 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to txblu, 08-06-2004 10:21:51   there is an 8N with a v-12 Zephyr engine right here in Springfield Mo. I was just looking it over again yesterday at the annual steam and tractor show. I have seen it around for 3 or 4 years, but have never had a chance to talk to the owner.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Andrew 08-06-2004 19:43:28 142.165.144.14 10870 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to txblu, 08-06-2004 10:21:51   any flat head will reav high no droping OR floating valves no push rods cam runs rigth on the tappet... btu that v12 would look good and have power in the 8n ford :) i was thinking of puttign a 429CJ boss or 460 cobra jet in a 8n or even a 534 truck engine but that wotn rev high enough...   [Reply]  [No Email]
txblu 08-08-2004 09:21:02 209.151.113.26 10895 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-06-2004 19:43:28   Didn't say it wouldn't rev. Just how long it took to get it revving. For a hot rod it needs to be fast (1955 Chev V8 2.5" stroke as I recall), for a tractor you would love that stroke. Mark   [Reply]  [No Email]
txblu 08-08-2004 09:20:46 209.151.113.26 10893 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-06-2004 19:43:28   Didn't say it wouldn't rev. Just how long it took to get it revving. For a hot rod it needs to be fast (1955 Chev V8 2.5" stroke as I recall), for a tractor you would love that stroke. Mark   [Reply]  [No Email]
Andrew 08-22-2004 16:12:45 64.201.214.105 11005 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to txblu, 08-08-2004 09:20:46   yeah ive seen fors 289's in 9n's and 428's and 429 cj's in the 8n and soon as that pull that trotle the back tires go in hyper speed....   [Reply]  [No Email]
big fred 08-05-2004 15:09:45 130.76.64.15 10849 Report to Moderator	Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to Andrew, 08-05-2004 11:21:12   A fellow named Jack White in Spokane recently built up a beautiful custom '38 Lincoln Zephyr with this V-12 flathead. I think he had the heads custom-made, as they were described as "one of a kind".   [Reply]  [No Email]
Allan C 08-06-2004 23:24:59 142.165.69.6 10875 Report to Moderator	Re: Re: Hot Rod Lincoln in reply to big fred, 08-05-2004 15:09:45   Ooooh Nifty!!   [Reply]  [No Email]